In light of the tragic killing two days ago of an American conservative political youth leader, Charlie Kirk, Socialist Brian Moore reposts his 2019 FoxNation debate with Kirk

Friday, September 12, 2025:

By Brian Patrick Moore

In 2021 Brian published his initial blog posting of a combined release (from FoxNation) with the title: "Brian negates President Trumps image of socialism and false view that Democrats are actually left-wing socialists."

Former Socialist Party USA presidential candidate (2008) Brian Moore, appeared on FoxNation's Deep Dive Program, on Monday, February 10, 2019, with host Steve Hilton and two other guests, Charlie Kirk and Tezlin Figaro, to discuss and defend "The Surge of Socialism."

Brian explained the essence of socialism is not reflected in recent Democratic ideas espoused by presidential candidates (Joe Biden, Hilary Clinton) nor by Bernie Sanders or Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez. Moore ridiculed President Trump as not understanding socialism, saying the President is only espousing the "red menace" slogans and "politics of fear" shouts of bygone years in America!

Moore promoted the idea of transferring product and service industry ownership from the private sector to worker and community ownership and management, where all of society benefits more equally. Host Hilton acknowledged Moore's "purer" approach to what socialism really is about.

Fox Nation photo shows left to right: Brian Moore, Tezlin Fegaro, panel host Steve Hilton, and Conservative advocate Charlie Kirk. February 10, 2019, in Los Angeles Fox Nation studios.Steve.

(note: Steve Hilton has announced his Republican candidacy for California Governor for 2026).

The following link to the program is no longer accessible since Fox Nation requires subscriptions.

Moore hopes to locate his disk of the program and will post it here shortly.

Link: https://insider.foxnews.com/2019/02/11/fox-nation-charlie-kirk-defends-capitalism-over-socialism-deep-dive?utm_source=share&utm_campaign=share-buttons&utm_medium=email

5-minute sample of 30-minute show is in above link. Fox Nation posted following attached note to above link: [Panelist Charlie] Kirk Presses Former Socialist Pres Candidate Brian Moore: Where Have Your [Socialist] Ideas Ever Worked? | Fox News Insider.

Moore, who's even further left than self-described Democratic socialists like Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) and Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-N.Y.), noted that the U.S. spends the most of any country on health care, yet is 37th in the world in life expectancy.

Charlie Kirk countered that the most "broken" and "inefficient" parts of the U.S. health care system are the ones that are government-run, such as the Department of Veterans Affairs and Medicaid.

"Let me ask a question: Has there ever been a place where your ideas have worked?" Kirk asked.

Moore acknowledged there are "very few" examples, arguing that Cuba has largely turned over control of education and health care to its citizens, with positive results.

Kirk asked if socialism has worked so well, then why has Cuba banned immigration to the U.S. and why are so many Cubans so desperate to leave?

Kirk said that during the Cold War, the "horrific ideas" of socialism were implemented in more than 100 countries -- including Cuba -- and it "ravaged" communities and cultures."

"We forget that. We have short memories," Kirk said. "And unfortunately, it's very easy to be generous with other people's money."

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